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The 2.5–3X Rule for Sales Rep Ramp Time
Most MSP leaders wildly underestimate how long it takes a new sales rep to actually produce.
On a recent coaching call with 15 MSPs, someone asked me a simple question: How long should it really take to ramp a full-cycle outside sales rep? The common answers—“six months,” “nine months,” “once they learn the product”—all miss the point.
In this episode, I break down a rule of thumb I’ve used for years: your real ramp time is 2.5–3× your average sales cycle. That ratio captures the hidden work most leaders forget—learning the company, building pipeline, and then actually running deals through your process.
If you’re hiring sales reps, planning headcount, or trying to figure out whether a new rep is actually behind—or just on a realistic timeline—this framework will change how you think about ramp time.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode
- Why the real ramp time for a sales rep is 2.5–3× your average sales cycle
- The three phases of ramp most companies underestimate: learning the company, building pipeline, and running deals
- Why using a fixed ramp number like “nine months” creates bad expectations for leadership and reps
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Transcript
It takes two and a half to three times your sales cycle to ramp up your new sales rep. Not two months, not once they learn the product: $2.5 - 3 \times$ your average sales cycle. And I'm going to break down exactly why.
I was on a coaching call with about 15 MSPs the other day, and somebody asked me how long it takes to ramp up a full-cycle outside sales rep—you know, somebody who's getting their own deals, they're doing some prospecting, they're doing some hunting, they're running discovery, running proposals, closing deals. How long, if somebody starts today, how long until that person is actually producing?
And my rule of thumb is this: if you just take your average sales cycle and multiply it by 2.5 to 3. Okay? And what I mean by that is, let's say your average sales cycle is three months; that's pretty common for MSPs between, like, 1 and 10–15 million a year in revenue. So take, like, three months from the point a deal gets activated, and it runs through your qualification process, your discovery, your assessment (if you have one), your proposal, the quote—on average, that takes three months to run its course and close. Okay, so you start there.
Once your new rep has an active deal in the pipeline, it's going to take about three months to close it. Right? That's just the nature of the deal; you've got the math on that. So we've already got three months baked into their ramp. But we've got to go backwards from there, because even if somebody has sold in the industry for a long time, they still have to learn the company, right? They have to learn your processes, they have to learn your offer. And I'm not—don't confuse it, I'm not saying people need to be a technical expert—but if you're doing any kind of consultative sales, you've got to have a reasonable understanding of the product or the service that you're selling in order to position it properly and make sure that you are selling to the pain points, and that just requires some product knowledge. Right? So that takes a little bit of time.
And if they haven't sold in the industry before, then you've got to add in that time, too, because there's a whole layer of industry knowledge and acronyms and vernacular and stuff—like, the context that they need to absorb, too. Now, real quick, if you like breaking stuff like this down and actually putting it to work, that's what I've got my newsletter for. You can sign up at raysemail.com if you're interested.
All right, so that's one piece of the ramp. The other piece is building pipeline. Okay, so it takes a minute or two to actually go out and build your pipeline. So if I've spent a month or two learning the company and I'm learning the people and the processes, getting comfortable with what I'm selling, now I go out and I do my thing. Okay, so I'm knocking on doors, or I'm hitting up LinkedIn, I'm making my calls, tapping the network, and getting some meetings going. I start activating the pipeline, and that takes some time, too. Right?
So you've got the learning curve, you've got pipeline building, and then you've got the deal itself just running through the whole sales process. You stack those things up, and that's your $2.5 - 3 \times$ the sales cycle. Now, why didn't I just give you a flat number—like, why not just nine months? Why not just 12 months? And it's because the sales cycles are a really good proxy for how much complexity is involved in the whole process. Right?
So think about it: if I'm selling enterprise-level deals and the average sales cycle of my deal is a year, because I'm multi-threading across a ton of different decision-makers and it's a significantly more involved process, well, all of that complexity is going to reflect in the learning that's required to sell that thing. You know, if it takes a year to close a deal, chances are you're selling something that's expensive enough and complex enough that it takes real time to learn and ramp up. It's going to take longer to build the pipeline for those deals, too, right? Like, you're working with different people inside the company; oftentimes you're finding contacts and kind of working your way through the company through multiple angles and networking differently. And all of those things take longer, particularly when you're selling enterprise-level deals that take longer to sell.
So, by using a ratio like $2.5 - 3 \times$ the sales cycle, you account for all of that additional complexity, no matter what you're selling. So, rule of thumb: $2.5 - 3 \times$ your sales cycle—that's the ramp. Plan for it. Hope it helps. Adios.
